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Comment by Nigel Cammack on May 17, 2009 at 12:22pm
This is where we'll have to agree to disagree. There is nothing wrong with trash talking or a legal hit to rattle someone and get under their skin but a penalty is a penalty. Weather it's slashing or minor slashing, slashing is the same thing. We get lucky to even still have some sort of rough penalties or fighting. Any other major sport if someone punched someone else they would be ejected almost immediatly and suspended for several games. The league has a job to keep the players safe and try their best to do it without removing all of the hits and grabs. They game is way to fast now a days to allow an illegal hit that can end someone's career.
Comment by Marshall Scott on May 17, 2009 at 12:38am
i disagree. goons, pests, etc. are one of my favorite parts of the game. it's a completely valid skill set to throw opponents off their game, get them overly emotional, drawing penalties (not diving a la crosby, i mean getting guys pissed off enough to lose control and do something stupid). and it was a skill for the coach to handle these players and use them effectively.

and it's not even about those players, really. there isn't the same level of rough and dirty play. i like seeing some slashing, spearing, etc. i like hitting, grabbing, pushing, and shoving.

fighting is the most boring part of the game these days, though.
Comment by Nigel Cammack on May 17, 2009 at 12:14am
I wasn't done. I was on my phone and it was to slow. I never speciically said Hunter. There were a lot of players in the league that were there for the sole purpose of wreaking havoc, taking penalties and intimidating other players. Those players have been weeded out so the the game can actually go on. It is fun to see a fight every once in a while but it is actually my least favorite part of the game. Sure now a days if you cause a quick little battle it can change the motivation in the game around and I don't see a problem with those little scrums, but people who solely step on the ice to draw a penalty and possibly end someones career should be pushed out of the league. There is a new program, you get with it or you go home!
Comment by Marshall Scott on May 16, 2009 at 11:37pm
i'm not too sure who you think had no skill... certainly not hunter, who managed to rack up several 70 point seasons on his way to becoming the second highest penalized player in history. with all that time in the box, you'd think he wouldn't have the time to notch over 1k career nhl points. he was a gritty, tough player, and it was an absolute bitch to play against him. but he played an offensive role as well.
Comment by Nigel Cammack on May 16, 2009 at 11:24pm
That hit that hunter put on long after the play is exactly what I don't like about the old NHL. Things like that are to dangerous. Sports evolve and I think the NHL has evolved in the right direction! The big players with no skill have been weeded out and the game has come alive and got re-energized. There was obviously things wrong with the slow no skill NHL because they locked out and almost did not return because people got bored. I'll finish when I get home.
Comment by Marshall Scott on May 16, 2009 at 7:31pm
an example: dale hunter was one of my favorite players of all time. he was so fun to watch, and played with such heart. i just posted a video that showed one of his classic antics. in bettman's nhl, he'd be suspended, and probably eventually kicked out of the league.
Comment by Marshall Scott on May 16, 2009 at 7:25pm
there's no grit anymore. it's all sanitized.
Comment by Nigel Cammack on May 16, 2009 at 6:13pm
I don't really miss the old NHL. I miss some of the players but I love the new speed and skill you have to have in the new NHL. I have always loved the speed in the league and now things happen so fast that it drags you into it more and keeps your blood pressure up.
Comment by Marshall Scott on May 16, 2009 at 3:41pm
i miss the old nhl
Comment by Keith Corley on May 16, 2009 at 10:01am
man, Federov looks young as hell!

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