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QUEST FOR THE CUP!

Golden Boy and His merry Band of misfits...

Well hockey fans, it's time to revisit the rivalry between the Washington Capitals, and the Steel City's own Pittsburgh Penguins.  As of this writing, it is the 2nd intermission, of what should have been an amazing hockey game between two of the league's most dynamic teams.  Instead, what were getting is a replay of Game 7 of Lord Stanley's playoffs last season.  What, you may ask, do I mean exactly? Pittsburgh has again gotten the favor of the refs, and has shown how good teams become even better when the referees hand them play making opportunities.  Instead of a well executed, hard nosed, grind out game; it has turned into a 5 on 4 clinic, with the Capitals on the slighted side of the calls.  Im sure all the Pen fans on this site will call me an Ovechkin fan boy, or an anti-Crosby supporter, but the fact of the matter is the calls haven't been there when the Capitals deserve them, and the Penguins draw favor with the refs, NO MATTER THE ICE they are on.  We'll see if this huge injustice can be corrected in the 3rd... Until then... GO CAPS!!!

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Just a quick update to my earlier post... 3rd period turned into the hockey game everyone wanted to see! Hard hitting, high scoring, OT game where the refs let the boys play, and Hockey showed why ti is the greatest sport on earth! Hate to see the game end on a power play (even if it was for my boys), but even during the PP, both teams showed why they are the favorites for the Eastern Conference Title. Good game played all around, I tip my hat to Crosby and Staal for making it happen for the Pens, and I can only hope that the next 2 games live up to the caliber of this one! GO CAPS!
So due to your very eyes-closed biased comment above I went back and watched the game that I also attended for the fourth time after I saw this. I went through the rundown of the entire game of calls and no calls pretty much to see if the biased veiws of Caps fans stand up to actual proof. I decided to sit and view it not caring who won because I already knew who one. Here is the rundown of the game:
PERIOD 1
- Before Crosby's first goal there were no missed calls for either side. Clean game for both so far.
- Ovi facewashed Orpik, no call made @ 11:16. Not a problem this is what happens in hockey.
- 1st penalty called against Caps for tripping on Laich it was a definite slew foot @ 10:55 due to the legitimate penalty Crosby scores 2nd goal.
- 2nd penalty called on Kunitz for interference on Theodore @ 9:05. This could have gone either way because Kunitz may not have been able to move with #26 pushing him down into the paint. But it's a hard call so I call it a clean call.
- 3rd penalty Marc Eaton called for holding @ 6:02
- 4th penalty Mike Knuble and Craig Adams for fighting and instigating. Knuble takes 10 min penalty but teams play even strength so it's a wash.
- End of the 1st Pens have 2 and the Caps have 2. Even at the end of 1

PERIOD 2
- 1st penalty called on Sergei Gonchar for holding @ 19:04
- 2nd penalty Caps called for too many men on the ice. Legitimate call @ 13:50
- 3rd penalties called on both teams for fighting; teams play 4 on 4; Pens score even handed goal.
- 4th penalty called on Semin for a high stick on Gonchar. Clean call by refs @ 1:23
- 5th penalty called on Shultze for interference bottom left of screen @ :30 sec. No one was near the play so clean call.
- End of 2nd Pens have 2 and the Caps have 4. Would have been even if Caps changed faster and Shultze didn't take a retalitory hit. Can not be blamed on refs.

PERIOD 3
- 1st and only penalty called on Shultze for slashing. I had to watch it a few times because I wasn't sure myself if it was a good call but after looking at it a couple times the refs had to make that call and the breaking of the stick so hard was the evidence.
- End of 3rd Pens have 0 Caps have 1

OVERTIME
- 1st penalty called on Brooks Orpik for high sticking. Legitimate call and the game winning goal was scored on Caps PP.

TOTAL
Pens have 5 and the Caps have 7

There are several other calls that could have been called but were not called the one I will mention was the high stick on Malkin off the faceoff @ 8:42 in the third. We could all say the refs missed that call in favor of the Caps but I am sure that's not what it was. My point in reviewing this is that there were barely any non legitimate calls if any in this game. The teams were even at the end of one and the reason they weren't after the second was due to the Caps own discipline. Each team had one called either in the third or in overtime which kept those two even. I don't mind anyone being biased about their teams because I certainly am biased about mine but I choose to make intelligent comments before I haul off and call for a conspiricy theory during the game. Don't make excuses for why your team is losing. Actually look on the inside and see what your team is doing wrong. I left that game not complaining that we were jacked by the refs, instead I was wondering what went wrong that we were able to give up a 3 point lead.
You cought yourself well by coming back and posting that it was a good game and it is the greatest sport but don't turn into one of those fans that just makes excuses. Be an intelligent fan that realizes when your team makes mistakes and when another team actually does a good job against you. If you don't believe me you don't have to on any of this but I just went off the complete proof of the tape. My 2 cents!! It was definitely a great close game though! Thanks for being a fan!
Oh yeah and the Pens were 1 for 5 on the PP so the refs didn't hand them anything!
To defend my "unintelligent comments," and "conspiracy theory during the game"...

Your break down is great. Thank you for taking the time to put in the offenders and YOUR TAKE on whether they were clean or other wise. This site, or so I thought, was here to promote discussion amongst fans and non-fans alike. If you were opposed to my statements, then be opposed as a PENS fan, not as a supposed bias opinion. Its impossible to be biased in a game like this, when you are routing for one of the teams involved.

To the break down: Most all of your interpretation makes sense, but there are a few glaring issues I wanted to point out. First; the 3rd penalty in the 2nd period led to a 10 min misconduct on Nicklas Backstrom for his altercation with one of the Pens. Now this would be all fine and good if a Penguin hadn't piled on to the scrum with Ovechkin and Orpik, and Backstrom just went swingin. But as it was after Ovechkin and Orpik went to the ice, a Penguin, and I wish I could tell you which one but it is awful late right now, throws himself on top of Ovechkin with a decisive blow, and after being pulled off by Backstrom takes some well deserved shots. Both should of gotten game misconducts, but only Backstrom gets the big one.

Secondly; Gonchar is notorious for embellishing in the NHL. Did it with the Caps and has done it with the Pens since joining the team. The "high stick" from Semin was equally Gonchars fault, and in my honest opinion should have been considered for a hold, or washed out along with the high stick.

Thirdly; anyone who has EYES could see that there was no contact whatsoever to cause the stick to break in the 3rd period. Outside of the Penguin player leaning too heavily on his stick, there was nothing involving either Schultz or the Penguin player that warranted a slashing penalty. The announcers pointed it out, NHL.com brought it to light, and just about any venue who shows highlights made note of the fact that there was no contact leading to the stick breaking.

Next time you break down a game, make sure it is one where there is no vested interest. I say what I mean each and everytime I speak, and those who know me, You included Nigel, know that I am a VERY knowledgeable fan who wouldnt speak on something if I did not think it was a legitimate issue. Im thrilled the refs let the boys play in OT, and again hate to see it end on a PP, but if I feel a game is being unjustly called or that a ref has his head up his ass, then I am darn well gonna say something. GO CAPS!

Nigel Cammack said:
Oh yeah and the Pens were 1 for 5 on the PP so the refs didn't hand them anything!
I did sit and view the game in a bias light. You can beleive that if you like but I am sure you will not. My definite intention was sitting there not caring which team I liked because I already knew the outcome of the game. I did not sit down with the intention of finding just the Caps at fault here. After seeing the game in person and watching it three times so far at my house I think I am able to review it as just a hockey fan and not a Pens fan. My point was to view it from the stand point of a ref and nothing else. I sat and reviewed and rewound many times every call. A high stick is a high stick wheather it was meant to happen or not. I could say the same thing as you for the overtime high stick. It wasn't on purpose and just let the boys play. I did not because Orpik got called on a clear penalty. he did not intend to hit Semin in the face but he did. Same as the Gonchar penalty. Those are the point of the rules. If someone gets tripped for the most part it will be called wheather or not it is on purpose. I will go back and review the possible holding as well. But that also goes back to the high stick at center ice on malkin that was not called. Some calls are made and some are missed. Just like the interference that was not called for sitting on Crosby's head in front of the net. The refs allowed it to happen to keep the game moving which is fine but it was another penalty that was not called. The reason I did not mention that before was to stay away from the bias area but you bring up missed calls so I'll show those to you as well. I had no vested interest in either of the teams when I sat down and watched it for the fourth time. I will go back and watch it again for the fifth time today if you like. I reviewed the slashing over and over again so I could make an educated statement on it. I did not just view and and blatently say it was a slash. If you notice I said I almost would have said it should have not been called till i looked at it over ten times. There was contact on the stick that happened about the same time the he took the shot and leaned into the stick. Something happening that fast may or may not lead to a penalty. In that instance it did. The Pens did not capitalize on that chance so it doesn't really matter anyway. The Backstrom call was an even penalty except for the two minutes Ovi went to the box. He was sent to the box because he came flying in after the goal to go after Orpik. Fights happen and that is well and good but unfortunatly for the Caps the Pens held more composure in that fight. Probably because they were busy celebrating a goal at the same time. That is also not intended to be a bias statement. Go back and review the game as I have and you'll see how that fight led to and extra two minutes for the Caps. Mainly because it was started by the Caps.
I firmly believe that you are en educated fan but you came here during the game more then likely heated just like everyone around us at the game was at the end of two because you were not in the lead. Times like that lead people to believe that all the cards are stacked against them rather then actually looking at what happened. You could see the Caps get frustrated toward then end of the second and that is what leads to penalties. The Pens do it all the time and they did do it on Sunday. It is natural for all teams to do that. I know that I have Caps fans that I have to contend with at all times during hockey season and that is the one team that I do not just close my eyes as a bias fan and think that everyone is against us or that the Caps do everything wrong and it's not fair for us. As I said before you can believe what you want to believe about wheather or not I had a vested interest in my reviewing the game the last time but I assure you I did not.
The point of this site is for fans and new fans alike to have fun conversations about hockey but rules are rules and they have to be reviewed carefully not just thrown out the window because either of us have a vested interest in our teams. You are not the fair weather fan I come across on a regular basis but I know you know more about hockey then what your original statement suggests. That's all I'm saying. And I will go back and watch the game again today for another review and take even more notes then I already have.

Cory Bryant said:
To defend my "unintelligent comments," and "conspiracy theory during the game"...

Your break down is great. Thank you for taking the time to put in the offenders and YOUR TAKE on whether they were clean or other wise. This site, or so I thought, was here to promote discussion amongst fans and non-fans alike. If you were opposed to my statements, then be opposed as a PENS fan, not as a supposed bias opinion. Its impossible to be biased in a game like this, when you are routing for one of the teams involved.

To the break down: Most all of your interpretation makes sense, but there are a few glaring issues I wanted to point out. First; the 3rd penalty in the 2nd period led to a 10 min misconduct on Nicklas Backstrom for his altercation with one of the Pens. Now this would be all fine and good if a Penguin hadn't piled on to the scrum with Ovechkin and Orpik, and Backstrom just went swingin. But as it was after Ovechkin and Orpik went to the ice, a Penguin, and I wish I could tell you which one but it is awful late right now, throws himself on top of Ovechkin with a decisive blow, and after being pulled off by Backstrom takes some well deserved shots. Both should of gotten game misconducts, but only Backstrom gets the big one.

Secondly; Gonchar is notorious for embellishing in the NHL. Did it with the Caps and has done it with the Pens since joining the team. The "high stick" from Semin was equally Gonchars fault, and in my honest opinion should have been considered for a hold, or washed out along with the high stick.

Thirdly; anyone who has EYES could see that there was no contact whatsoever to cause the stick to break in the 3rd period. Outside of the Penguin player leaning too heavily on his stick, there was nothing involving either Schultz or the Penguin player that warranted a slashing penalty. The announcers pointed it out, NHL.com brought it to light, and just about any venue who shows highlights made note of the fact that there was no contact leading to the stick breaking.

Next time you break down a game, make sure it is one where there is no vested interest. I say what I mean each and everytime I speak, and those who know me, You included Nigel, know that I am a VERY knowledgeable fan who wouldnt speak on something if I did not think it was a legitimate issue. Im thrilled the refs let the boys play in OT, and again hate to see it end on a PP, but if I feel a game is being unjustly called or that a ref has his head up his ass, then I am darn well gonna say something. GO CAPS!

Nigel Cammack said:
Oh yeah and the Pens were 1 for 5 on the PP so the refs didn't hand them anything!

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